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Grant P's avatar

My first thought re: “unsold grand complications” was pricing. But it hasn’t actually been that dramatic. A 5970P in 2009 cost 138.5, and a 5270P today costs 265.3. So just over a 4% growth rate, vs inflation at ~2.5%. Not crazy.

Maybe the collector pool for these grand comps was always rather small? Patek production has gone from ~40k to 70k+ watches over the past 15 years. But I suspect a lot of that incremental demand has come from people interested in the sports watches, people who are asking their ADs “how many pieces do I have to buy before an aquanaut?” These are not grand complication buyers, at least not anytime soon.

Related to the above, maybe perceived obtainability actually reduces demand? If Patek said publicly “we are only going to make 500 platinum 5270s in total” collectors would be crawling over each other. The “chin” dial variant would have effusive lot essays written about it by auction houses, noting its rarity among the 500.

Finally, might just be that fashion has changed. The most in demand watches are almost universally sports watches. Even for Lange, the Odysseus is one of their only watches that requires a purchase history - and trades above retail on the secondary market. Like a Zeitwerk and a steel Odysseus trade uncomfortably close to each other. To me, that seems “wrong”, but demand is what it is.

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that was a powerful analogy: jumping off the escalator before reaching the top.

i would articulate it in a slightly different way, we live now in a culture where people feel entitled to respect they haven’t earned.

interior-angles and independents are the symptoms of the same malaise. why make the effort to build a collection of rolex/patek over many years, when you can sign up with the latest independent that your “friend” referred you into, and pretend you’ve transcended above everyone else?

but slow is the march of time, and shortcuts only take you backwards.

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